hi scruff--heres a link to lots of other UK members--lots in southern England.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/197364/ex-jw-uk?page=38&size=10
ive been reading through this forum for a while and thought i should contribute!.
so im df, i was very involved regular pioneer for several years and i slowly started to wake up.. my exprience of leaving is horendous and contains alot of shocking (but apparently not that rare in the orgs) judicials and various encounters with the elders.. ive been out 10 years now and at 27 loving life!
running a succesful business and dont all thay materialistic stuff thata frowned apon, like providing my wife and kids with a nice car and house!
hi scruff--heres a link to lots of other UK members--lots in southern England.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/197364/ex-jw-uk?page=38&size=10
bumped for scruffmcbuff
just wanted to update you guys of the amazing couple of weeks i've had in recovering from the cult.. i was attending the meetings still just so i could see my daughter in the kingdom hall and have her sit we me half the time.
i had no intention of ever becoming a jw again but was hoping to be re-instated and just not turn up ever again so i could at least see my family.
but then an elder said something to me that changed all that.
pale emperor---have you sorted out access rights to your daughter--also--custody / care and control ?
for what its worth--i had joint custody of my 3 kids when their mother divorced me. it didnt mean jack shit when they were turned against me in their early teens.
my new girlfriend asked me over dinner last night what jw's believe.
as i sat there explaining it i realized how ridiculous it sounds and was slightly embarrassed that i used to believe this crap for 31 years.. try and read this and imagine hearing it for the first time.... me: well... jw believe that god's name is jehovah and that his son is jesus christ.
they believe that jesus died on a stake and not a cross and that in the year 1914 he personally chosen the jw's as his one true religion.
i like your seduction technique pale one
my witness self :-very hollow, slightly lofty, characteristically judgemental, overwhelmingly convincing.. my non-witness self:- and in my imperfect way no longer taking the passive attitude to reality, and most importantly no longer feeling an outsider with my " true" friends..
as a witness i lived a lie. i wasnt interested in it--never believed in god. just in it to please parents then gilfriend / fiancee / wife. was out of it 3 years after i got married.
that was 45 years ago.
since then ive been--me. no fake existence.
just sitting through this week's wt study and just spent 5 minutes listening to multiple answers where people are convinced that jehovah made humans from clay, literally forming adam like a sculpture then breathing life into him.. it's embarrassing to think i basically thought the same....
you either believe what it says in the bible--talking snake and all----or you dont.
if what the bible says is not true---then it must be the opposite----lies.
good morning i hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
there has been a lot of talk about the "new light" concerning the generation teaching.
it's been a major part of the prophecy concerning the last days and of course since jws are the only ones able to decipher and understand prophecy it is of great importance to get this main prophecy right.
this generation is trying its best to piss it away.
i really fail to see how much actual "witnessing" is occurring with the trolley carts.publishers, usually pioneers, just stand or sit there not engaging anyone and count their time.. the only thing i notice that it's accomplishing is brand exposure for jw.0rg so the public is exposed to the logo and literature/poster card headlines.. take for example this "evening" witnessing by a pioneer elder while on summer holiday/vacation.. .
is this not a wth kinda moment when you consider the years of slaving, knocking on doors, business territory and bible studies we had to keep performing so we weren't branded a "weak" publisher?.
is it ok to count time if a dub sticks a jayworg sign in his front window at home ? or--how about a jayworg bumper sticker ? count time whilev driving. or even when the car is parked for hours.
i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
1975 is meaningless to any dubs born since that date. it was all tied in with a creative day being 7000 years long--and the one bullsh1t non-fact was used to prove the other--and vice versa. best let any active dub who wants to live in denial stay alseep in their own world of illusion.
it was the unprovable 7000 year-day " fact" that got me really thinking long and hard about the watchtower--and i was well out of it before 1975.
i thought i'd spend some time cleaning up the forum code and wanted to let you know about some of the recent changes and fixes:.
the avatars and in-post images used to use a separate imaging service which was convenient but didn't provide much control over caching which meant that each day you visited the site you were probably re-downloading those images again.
as they are immutable they can be cached for a long time which saves bandwidth and speeds things up.
oy think the aanser loys in the soyl. oooo arrr.